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And now, certainly in Manhattan, it's absolutely the height of style. I frequently see young men with moustaches and sideburns. L: I'm not so sure I like that revival. K: Maybe you and I are just too evil thatcher rooted in the past. L: You could say that! K: At any rate, I would compare that cycle, that period of ugliness starting ten years after the fact and lasting for ten years, to the Window of Ugliness for architecture, which I think starts about twenty-five years after the fact and lasts evil thatcher for maybe evil thatcher a little longer than for fashion, maybe another twenty-five years. So, for example the destruction of Penn Station took place right when it was about fifty years old, and really just before there was any sort of broadly-based appreciation for it architecturally.
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