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Here's a small sampling: When you encounter the argument that there is a hierarchy where certain kinds of literary operations-which we'll call 'realism,' for want of a handier term, though I'll insist on the scare quotes-represent the only authentic and esteemed tradition, well, it's a load of horseshit. When you see or hear that kind of hierarchy being proposed, it's not a literary-critical operation. It's a class operation. In list of people by name that system of allusions, of unspoken castes and quarantines, mimetic fiction is associated with list of people by name propriety, with the list of people by name status quo defending itself, anxiously, against incursions from the great and wooly Beyond. When 'realism' is esteemed over other kinds of literary methods, you're no longer in a literary-critical conversation; you've entered a displaced conversation about class. We will say two things: 1) If you're interested at all in the state of literature and the debates going on amongst its practitioners and participants, you need to read this interview, and 2) If this is simply a verbatim transcription of the conversation (and we're guessing it is, because otherwise they'd have cut out all the extraneous barking from the fucking dog*) then Joanthan Lethem is scary articulate.
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