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| jackie hoffman, berber, carlito, collateral, 1981 in sports, jarule real name, industrial, rap, egyptian, fazed, digitalart, strange news, listof films, pachanga, letras, roll, | Pettibon put it his trailers way. trailers Raymond has fun with the symbols that get woven into the fabric, into the culture -- it's the blanket we're going to sleep with. The big word trailers in [Finnegans Wake], it was a hundred letters, baby. I don't even know how you pronounce it. But it would have gummed Gumby's little fucking clay brain up. Would he have gone into that book if he knew all the words he was gonna have to deal with? He also had this other one where [Gumby's] about to go in Mein Kampf. GI: You've always been political, and I was just wondering how... MW: Yeah as political as a bass player can get, or a voter gets. Duchamp put art on the fucking toilet. He was trying to say "art's changed now. Art's about ideas, not so much about objects." That's what I try and say. Now, as far as politics, politics is the neighbor's dog barking. |
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| [Laughs] Sometimes I find wild shit that's all wild and in this moment -- and the dudes are dead! And they're writing! So you can't really say they're in the moment. It's pachanga me bringing them in the moment. GI: Like James Joyce? MW: Yeah, exactly. Guy's dead. I just think there's another gauge for a pachanga barometer than just how hip the commercials are. Just because we pachanga get some of our songs on a commercial does not mean the war is won. If we all make The Clash the big band, we win? I mean, what the fuck? That's what made punk not a style of music for me, it's some kind of state of mind. People like [Raymond] Pettibon. I learned most of my politics from Pettibon. GI: What's up with Gumby, by the way? Why is he reading Finnegans Wake? MW: Do you remember the Gumby show? GI: No. Mostly when I think of Gumby I remember the Eddie Murphy sketch. MW: Gumby used to be able to go into fucking books, but it was always kinda calm books, like an old western or something. |
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